Scottish FBU Leader Urges Scottish Firefighters to Do More, Unlimited Amounts of Work – for Nothing!

Mr Roddy Robertson, the (not so) illustrious FBU EC member for Scotland, has taken to facebook in the wee small hours, in an attempt to prosecute his argument for supporting the creation of a Scottish Allowance for firefighters.

His comments do not exactly make for surprising reading, given they are more akin to the type of comments you would expect to hear from management, so no change from him there then.

Interestingly, and probably by mistake, he has inadvertently admitted that a Scottish Allowance would mean that management would be able to instruct any firefighter to do anything they like, as their role maps would be effectively ripped up as a consequence of a Scottish Allowance that would include a paltry additional responsibility payment within it.

His basic premise is that as firefighters are going to less fires, they need to look at doing other work as well. He argues that a Scottish Allowance would allow this to happen.

Well, of course it would! Management would have a field day ordering firefighters to do anything and everything they wanted, with workloads going through the roof!

As we have discussed on this Blog previously, an additional responsibility payment is paid to firefighters who carry out work that is not contained within their role map (job description). However, a Scottish Allowance would not only dramatically reduce that sum of money to those who currently receive it, but would mean that ALL other firefighters would be legally required to carry out any and all additional work designated to them by management, whether it was in their role map or not, effectively ripping the role maps up.

Why would anyone want to agree to that?!

Pathetically Mr Robertson also lambasts comments on social media that challenge and contradict his own twisted logic, yet uses social media to do so! Oh, the irony!

The bottom line here is that Mr Robertson and his lackies are yet again trying to pull the wool over the eyes of their members by trying to sell them an allowance that will see their job descriptions ripped up and their workloads increase, all so they can look good with management, employers and the Scottish Government!

It is nonsensical when he suggests that as ARAs are currently a removable allowance, management could at any time take them from those firefighrers who currently receive them. If that was to happen, those firefighters would be perfectly within their rights to stop carrying out the additional duties that the particular ARA payment covered, so it is highly unlikely management would remove these ARA payments as they would lose a number of key, specialists functions.

It is therefore a bluff, and not a very good one at that, which merely exposes the fact that Mr Robertson is being less than candid with his own members (what’s new)!

There is another more obvious issue. This year, the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service needs to save £12M from their budget. Does anyone honestly think that in those circumstances, management would be giving firefighters additional money and not expecting anything back in return?! Think about it!

Chief Fire Officers throughout the UK have wanted rid of the role maps since they were created. They see them as restrictive as they limit what duties they can instruct firefighters to do. CFOs want the flexibility to be able to tell firefighters to do anything and everything that management want.

A Scottish Allowance is a golden opportunity for management in Scotland to be able to do just that. It’s what they’ve always wanted and the Scottish FBU Leaders, true to form, are making the arguments for them.

To make matters worse, Mr Robertson and his minions are yet again insulting the intelligence of their own members by trying sell this allowance by saying that it will put firefighters on £30K.

The 1% national pay increase that is expected to be accepted next month will put firefighters pay (including the CPD payment) to just £250 short of £30K. So this tells us that the value of the ARA part of the Scottish Allowance will only be £250.

A 1% pay increase next year would see firefighters attain that additional £250 plus more, putting the annual salary to just over £30K.

So the choice for Scottish FBU members is clear.

1. Wait a year to be on £30K, with no fundamental change to your Conditions of Service, Contract of Employment or Job Description (Role Map), or

2. Accept a Scottish Allowance now (which is only worth an additional £250 per year to those who do not currently receive an ARA payment, and which constitutes a pay cut to those who currently do) and rip up your Role Map, selling your soul to management, for them to tell you to do anything they want, whenever they want!

As the old phrase goes – It’s a No Brainer!

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Another Day, Another Sell-Out!!

Panic has certainly set in amongst the John Duffy camp. They are so terrified that Mr OBE is going to lose the current election for the post of Scottish Regional secretary, that their levels of desperation have now reached a new low.

It was recently revealed that Mr Roddy Robertson, EC member for Scotland, has been having clandestine meetings with senior SFRS managers, to discuss fast tracking a deal to implement a Scottish Allowance – an allowance that would encapsulate all current allowances received by firefighters (ie, CPD, ARAs, Travel Allowance, etc).

He is trying to get an agreement reached, so that he can sell it to FBU members as a huge success and associate the deal with Mr OBE, in a pathetic attempt to try to bolster his chances of gaining more votes in the current election ballot.

However, there are a couple of problems with this.

First of all, the election ballot papers have already been issued to members’ home addresses. It is a well know fact that the majority of ballot papers in home address ballots, are returned within the first 5 to 7 days, so it’s a bit late for Mr OBE to try to ingratiate himself with FBU members now!

More importantly, they are trying to portray the Scottish Allowance as something that it certainly is not.

For a start, as some sort of incentive, they are saying that if members accept a Scottish Allowance, a firefighter will then be on £30k. That being the case, let’s break down a firefighter’s pay and see exactly how much a Scottish Allowance represents.

Current Annual Salary: £28,766
Current CPD: £682*
Total: £29,488

*This figure is different in different areas, so we have used the Srrathclyde figure as an example to make the point.

Of course, there is a national pay rise overdue. Even if we apply the minimum likely increase of 1%, this would increase the overall salary to £29,742.

So, once a pay increase is applied, a Scottish Allowance would only be worth £252.

There are many members who currently receive an ARA payment for carrying out specific duties beyond the terms of their Role Map (Contract of Employment). Some members receive two such payments.

For those members, the introduction of a Scottish Allowance would represent a PAY CUT!

The members who do not currently receive any ARA payment would indeed see their annual salary increased by £252, however there is a huge price to pay for this rather paltry sum.

The fact that a Scottish Allowance would include a payment to members for carrying out ‘non-specified’ additional responsibilities, it means that SFRS management would be able to instruct any member to carry out any task at any time.

Members would be legally obliged to do so, because management would be remunerating them for doing so, albeit a trivial amount.

So, in effect, a Scottish Allowance would rip up the Role Maps!

FBU members’ workloads have been and continue to be on the increase. The key protection that members have against having that workload dramatically increased further are the terms contained within their Role Map.

To remove those protections, would open the floodgates, seeing workloads explode… and all for £252!

FBU members would be wise to think extremely carefully about the serious consequences of accepting such an allowance.

In the midst of huge budget cuts, SFRS management are not going to increase salaries without getting something back for it! This is not money for nothing! There is a huge price to pay for accepting this Allowance!

FBU members must ask themselves if that price it worth £252!

Yet again, FBU members see the Scottish FBU officials trying to sell out more of their conditions of service!

Yet again, FBU members see the Scottish FBU officials trying to portray another detrimental change to them, as a success!

Yet again, FBU members see the Scottish FBU officials colluding with management, to the detriment of their members, for their own personal gain.

We understand that this issue will be put to FBU members in the form of a consultative ballot.

If such a ballot takes place – Vote NO!

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Make Sure Those Pesky FBU Members Don’t Spoil Our Commonwealth Games and Our Independence Referendum, Mr OBE!!

In yet another pathetic attempt to raise his own profile in the midst of a serious challenge against him in the current election for the post of Scottish Regional Secretary, Mr John Duffy OBE has been making some public and very questionable comments in the press and on social media this week.

It started on Sunday, in an article in the Sunday Post, in which he raised concerns regarding the possibility of firefighters in Scotland taking part in an overtime ban during the period of the Commonwealth Games!

He said “If negotiations go on then, unfortunately, we will get dragged into having another overtime ban”.

Dragged into?! Is this not the industrial action short of a strike that FBU members in Scotland voted for?!!

It gets worse. He goes on to say “We are hopeful that no action will be taken during that period as we all need to appreciate this is a significant, global event, but it is a possibility.”

Well, he wouldn’t want to upset his pals in the Scottish Government by supporting his own members taking legitimate and legal action in pursuit of a decent pension would he?!

He then says “It would be ironic if, because of an overtime ban, the agreement we’d reached for the Games meant we couldn’t keep the day-to-day appliances on the run.”.

Day to day appliances” would be off the run because of the continued loss of frontline firefighter posts that Mr OBE and his cronies have done nothing to stop!

These are the frontline jobs that Mr OBE said his pals in the Scottish Government promised wouldn’t be lost as a consequence of moving to a single Scottish Fire and Rescue Service, however the reality has seen significant cuts with many more scheduled to come.

So, rather than Mr OBE talking down his own members’ fight to safeguard their pensions, he should be leading them!

It has become obvious that he and his cronies do not want to ‘rock the boat’ with the Scottish Government ahead of the Commonwealth Games and the Independence Referendum! Is this yet another conflict of interest?!

The Chief Officer, Alasdair Hay, then made a statement that is fundamentally and completely inaccurate. He said “The industrial action being taken by the Fire Brigades Union relates to an ongoing dispute between the FBU and the UK Government.”


The Trades Dispute was registered with the Scottish Government (as well as UK, Welsh and Northern Irish Governments), who have regulatory control over Scottish Firefighters’ pensions. The Scottish Government made an offer on 17th September 2013, which Scottish firefighters have not accepted but which remains on the table. They wouldn’t make an offer in a dispute that was nothing to do with them, would they?!

Therefore the dispute with the Scottish Government continues, meaning that any industrial action short of a strike taken by Scottish firefighters is not action that they are being “dragged into”, but action they have voted to take in pursuit of the demands contained within the registered Trade Dispute!

The only people being “dragged into” the dispute is Mr OBE and his cronies!!

On Monday (23rd June 2014) a tweet from the FBU Scotland twitter account read Meeting with Scottish firefighters pensions forum, John Duffy, reg sec making the case to improve Scottish position, Sean Starbuck also atnd

Wait a minute! Mr OBE and his cronies have been telling FBU members since last September that the Scottish Government’s offer (or “deal” as the Scottish FBU leaders prefer to refer to it as) can’t be improved upon in Scotland without further concessions from Westminster!

Given that there have been no such concessions, on what basis are they now pursuing “improvements”?!

They forced through a highly questionable ballot designed to ensure that Scottish firefighters were taken out of taking strike action which has continued to be taken by firefighters in England and Wales, on the basis that a “deal” had been struck in Scotland”!

They have been telling Scottish FBU members that there have been no discussions on pensions with the Scottish Government for the past 9 months because they are merely awaiting the outcome of negotiations with the UK Minister!

Now, all of a sudden, after 9 months, they are meeting the Scottish Government to “make the case to improve the Scottish position”!

Why have they not been doing this for the past 9 months and why now?!!

Could this sudden meeting with the Scottish Government on pensions be anything to do with the developments in Northern Ireland, where the Northern Irish Government last week offered a new pension scheme to firefighters there, which has a Normal Pension Age (NPA) of 55yrs old?!

In the process of making that decision it should be noted that they rejected a Scottish Government type proposal as “such proposals have not been costed”!

So Mr OBE is telling Scottish FBU members that he is now speaking with the Scottish Government, 9 months after doing absolutely nothing, to try to improve upon a Scottish “deal” that he has been saying since last year was the best Scottish firefighters were going to get!

The tweet on the FBU Scotland twitter account, which by the way is administered by Mr OBE himself, also infers that he was the main man in this meeting, with Sean Starbuck merely accompanying him as a bit player.


Sean Starbuck is the National Officer who has been leading on the pensions dispute along with the General Secretary throughout the whole of the UK, since the dispute began.

Let’s not forget that Mr OBE was excluded from negotiations last year by the General Secretary due to concerns over his overly friendly relations with senior SNP politicians, which many members have long considered to be a clear conflict of interest.

Now, in a quite pitiful, as well as cynical attempt to raise his own profile and level of importance, he has exaggerated his own role in the negotiations with the Scottish Government.

He must really be panicking about losing the election, to stoop to such desperate measures!

The key question in all of this relates to the “assurances” of the Scottish Government last September, when they stated that if an improved offer is made elsewhere in the UK, then they would at least match it.

So, now that the Northern Ireland Government has shown that an NPA of 55yrs old is possible within the financial restrictions imposed by Westminster, is the Scottish Government going to stand by their promise and offer it to Scottish firefighters?!

We await with bated breaths!

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FBU Executive Council Postpones Scottish District Elections

The ballotting of members in the elections currently being held in the Scottish Districts Nos 6 & 7 has been postponed by the FBU’s Executive Council and will now be re-run from the Union’s Head Office in London.

The decision has come after a multitude of complaints over the running of the elections by the Scottish FBU leaders were received by FBU Head Office from members and candidates alike.

The General Secretary had previously been tasked by the EC to look into the running of the Scottish elections due to the many concerns raised, and reported back his findings this week.

Consequently, the decision was made to postpone and take over the election.

We understand that the electoral services ‘Popularis’ will be used to send ballot papers to Union members’ home adresses. Members will then return their ballot paper directly to Popularis for them to conduct the official count.

Since the beginning of the District elections process, the running of the elections by the FBU Scottish leaders has been mired in controversy.

From intimidation of candidates to simple bare-faced cheating, and Head Office has had enough.

Now that the Scottish officials have finally been exposed and taken out of the process, Scottish FBU members can now have confidence that a proper and transparent election process will now be conducted from Head Office.

It also shows how far the Scottish FBU leaders’ reputation has sunk. Even the FBU EC and Head Office no longer trust them to conduct a basic election process. 

There is now the same low level of respect, trust and confidence amongst the national leaders as there is amongst Scottish members!

Oh how the (not so) mighty have fallen!

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FBU Spin Doctor Covers Up Jobs Sell-Out as Crewing Levels Victory!

Mr John Duffy OBE must be dizzy with all the spinning he’s doing!

In the past few weeks, Mr OBE has issued two press releases and a circular to members in Scotland, which is more than he has issued in the previous year!

You’d think he was standing in an election… oh wait, he is!!

His offerings, however, have been nothing short of disgraceful, as they compromise and mislead FBU members!

A few weeks ago, whilst the fire at the Glasgow School of Art was still burning, he issued a press release stating how well firefighters coped at the incident, even though the Service is in the midst of a package of frontline cuts!

So, Mr OBE tells the world that despite the ongoing cuts in the Service, firefighters can still cope with major incidents!

Brilliant argument for stopping the cuts John… NOT!

As if that wasn’t bad enough, in a press release issued today, he has called for a uniformed establishment level in the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service to be agreed, even though he has been explicitly arguing against it for the past three years!

According to him, an establishment level was not needed, as his pals in the Scottish Government had assured him that there would be no cuts to the frontline. However, one year into the new Scottish FRS, the frontline cuts are taking hold, with more to come, and all of a sudden the solution according to Mr OBE is to try to get an establishment level agreed!

A bit late! Doh!

The Police ensured that an establishment level was in place before the amalgamation of the eight Police forces, which has protected frontline uniformed post in Police Scotland, but at the time Mr OBE agreed with SFRS management and the Scottish Government, that an establishment level wasn’t needed for the Fire Service!

What an idiot!

To make matters worse, in his recent press release, Mr OBE has announced that an agreement has been reached with SFRS management to maintain a crewing level of 5 riders on each of the first and second appliances (5&5) across the Strathclyde area.

However, we can confirm that this is NOT the case!

The Scottish FBU leaders have already secretly signed an agreement with management to apply 5&4 crewing levels across Scotland, which would be a reduction of the current crewing levels in Strathclyde, with the loss of approximately 200 frontline uniformed posts!

So, what Mr OBE is doing is dressing up an agreement to cuts jobs by giving the impression that he has managed to safeguard them!

So how is he doing it?

Special appliances that currently have a dedicated crew will change to a dual crewed arrangement, meaning that technically 5 riders could be available on second appliances.

For example, if a station currently has 5 riders on the first appliance, 5 riders on the second appliance and 2 riders on the special appliance, there would be a total crewing level of 12 riders required.

If the special appliance was changed to dual crewing, meaning that the 2 riders are removed and riders from the second appliance would then crew the special appliance should it be mobilised, then only a total of 10 riders would be required – 2 less than before!

Across the five watches in a station, this would constitute a loss of 10 posts in a station! Multiply this with the number of other stations that have special appliances, then you have a loss of many many frontline uniformed posts.

So rather than being the saviour of frontline uniformed posts, Mr OBE is agreeing to many being lost, but painting the sell-out as a victory!


Alistair Campbell would be proud of such spin!

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FBU President and General Secretary to Step In to Oversee Scottish Elections

As a consequence of many complaints being submitted to FBU head office about the current Scottish District elections, the Union’s national Executive Council has agreed that Matt Wrack, the FBU General Secretary and Alan McLean, the FBU President, will both get involved in ensuring that the Scottish officials comply with the recognised election process.

In a circular issued to Scottish FBU members, the General Secretary has stated that “As a result of the recent discussion at the Executive Council and the concerns raised, the President and I will be working with the Scottish Regional Secretary and other officials so as to assure members that correct procedures have been followed and the democratic rights of all members protected”.

This is a terrible indictment on the Scottish officials who are clearly no longer trusted by the Executive Council to run these elections themselves. As far as we are aware, it is the first time in living memory that national officials have had to step in to oversee regional elections due to members having a complete lack of trust in the officials running them.

Hopefully now, FBU members in Scotland can gain some confidence in the fact that the elections will now be overseen at the highest level and that the Scottish officials, who have a clear conflict of interest as they have a vested interest in the outcome of the elections, will not be left to their own devices!

Roll on the results!

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Scottish FBU Leaders’ Minion Admits to Cheating in Election!

In response to our previous posting on our Blog, where we reported that it has been alleged that Mr Billy “Turn” Coats may have been responsible for submitting a fraudulent nomination in the name of the Paisley branch, in the election for secretary of District 6, he initially attempted to rubbish these allegations.

At first, he stated that he couldn’t have submitted a fraudulent nomination because he hasn’t even seen a ballot paper, or issued one, or taken one back, even though ballot papers have nothing to do with the nomination stage of an election, as the ballot stage comes afterwards, making any reference to ballot papers irrelevant.

He then stated that he couldn’t have submitted a fraudulent nomination because he has just returned from a holiday abroad. Given that the nomination stage began on 19th March and ran for five weeks, closing on 23rd April, and given that he says he has just returned from holiday, is he saying that he has been on holiday for over 8 weeks?! Erm… unlikely.

However, irrespective of his previous lame attempts to deny any wrong-doing, with pathetic and irrelevant excuses, we understand that he has let it slip to another FBU member and finally admitted to another FBU member that a properly convened branch meeting in Paisley DID NOT take place, in order for the branch to formalise a nomination for Paul Donnelly.

So, as well as Mr Turn appearing to confirm that no meeting took place for a formal nomination to have been made, the date of any such meeting, that must be included in the official nomination form, must also then have been false.

Consequently, this means that the said nomination was submitted fraudulently, in other words, Mr Turn has CHEATED!

Surely a letter of resignation is in order!

The next question is – Did the Scottish FBU leaders know about it?!

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